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Interview with Geza
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What shapes a person’s perspective on life, leadership, and family?
In this episode of K>VOICES, Natasha Philpott sits down with Geza to explore a remarkable journey spanning generations, countries, and historic change.
Geza reflects on growing up in Hungary during the communist era, sharing firsthand experiences of life behind the Iron Curtain and how those early years shaped his outlook on opportunity, gratitude, and resilience. He also discusses his career journey, the lessons learned along the way, and the values that continue to guide him today.
Beyond work, Geza opens up about the importance of family to maintaining strong connections with a large extended family that gathers each summer. He also shares stories from his lifelong passion for windsurfing and the role it has played in his life.
This thoughtful conversation offers a unique perspective on history, personal growth, family traditions, and the experiences that shape who we become.
In this episode:
- Growing up in Hungary during communism
- Lessons learned throughout a diverse career journey
- The importance of family traditions and connections
- A lifelong passion for windsurfing
- How life experiences shape perspective and decision-making
- Reflections on resilience, gratitude, and personal growth
Tune in for an inspiring conversation about perspective, family, and what it means to go forward together.
Welcome to K Voices, where we bring you closer to the people behind Kirchhoff Automotive. I'm your host, Natasha Philpot, and today I'm joined by Giza, who manages administrative functions in Hungary. With over a decade at Kirchhoff Automotive and a career that spans consulting, international business, and leadership, Giza brings a unique perspective on both work and life. From growing up in a very different world under communism, where travel was limited and everyday items were scarce, to leading complex business functions today. Giza shares how these early experiences shaped his mindset. We also dive into what family means to him, from raising four children to being part of a large, close-knit, extended family, plus the values and connections that carry through both his personal and professional life. This is an extra special episode because it's our first time doing a video episode. So Isa, uh thank you so much for being uh the first colleague willing to try this out and welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_00Thank you very much. It's a pleasure that I can start this.
SPEAKER_01To start us off, let's go back to the beginning. You have so much history here with the company. Can you tell us what brought you here in the first place and what you do on a day-to-day basis?
SPEAKER_00I started a career as a consultant. And uh after a couple of years, I basically joined Automotive. So I can tell in the 35 years of work history, I almost entirely worked in in automotive. So it was not a surprise that I arrived at Kirchhoff in 2014. Just before joining, I've been doing uh interim jobs. I was an interim manager and actually was requested by the board to join as an interim to Kirchhoff. And uh finally, after a couple of rounds of negotiation, uh actually I got an offer from the board to join as a final managing director. Ah, the company was actually doing quite badly at that time, so it was in a bit of a crisis, sudden growth, new technology, sales was increasing heavily or very suddenly. Also, uh number of employees increased. Uh the company switched from medium category cars to premium category cars. So there are a lot of changes, and this change management was I would say not successful. So I was invited to the company. What would be the thing which attracts to me to join this company?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I was like, I felt like a broker, you know. When I look at the share, you know, that it doesn't look too good, but what why could this be attractive to me? Yeah. Basically, after meeting some members of the board, and uh I had a visit of the of the plant here in Hungary, it turned out that there are some great opportunities. I mean, the parts itself which were manufactured in the plant, there were premium cars, premium customers, you know, nice people. So, you know, in my head, I was thinking through after the first couple of interviews, you know, what could be the problem here? And maybe it's a it's a challenge to find out and maybe you can put this back on track.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you were you were called in to save the day and turn things around.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I'm I'm I'm pretty proud that I was not maybe the engine for that, but I was one of those who started the engine, and with the help of a great team, actually, because it was a great teamwork of all the people over here, I would turn around the company. So really proud. It's like also my baby, I can tell.
SPEAKER_01Yes, definitely. And so what has kept you here after all those years now, now that you're in a in a better position?
SPEAKER_00I'm very much uh in my private life, I'm very much family-oriented. I have four kids, uh, actually all grown-up kids, but LSC multiple children. And uh this is the first company on my my CV, actually, which is uh which is a family-owned company. So beforehand, I was working for companies which were stock exchange or uh public companies, and I was uh working very far away from the owners. Yeah, and uh what was very interesting is that I could physically see the owner, physically see the top guy. So the proximity from the owner is basically zero. So and my prior prior companies, you know, to get a decision, it was like a very long, long, long process, and we couldn't really recognize who's on the top of the company here. There is basically zero proximity. So that that's one thing. And the other thing is that the fact that this is also like a big family, you know, the family-owned company. Every time when we participate on the leadership team meeting at the year-end, we are like a big family with all the corporate people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We're good good friends. I think it's it's one of the key things to have a very successful company. So we are behaving like uh a big family, and it's pretty much matching to my private life as well.
SPEAKER_01Right, because you do have a very big family. As you said, you have four children. One of your children even works with you at the company.
SPEAKER_00I'm very proud of him. He's the the second son. Actually, he he joined Kirchhoff a couple of years ago already, and I'm very proud of him. He's a mechanical engineer, so he works at the uh maintenance uh department as a maintenance engineer. And I think he's doing quite well. He keeps the proximity from me, okay? He's uh he's let's say uh works on his own. I think performs pretty well. So I'm very proud of him.
SPEAKER_01And you guys don't carpool?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no. He he goes separately because he already separated from us. Four four kids, out of four kids, three already moved away. Right. He has his own home and he's traveling independently to the company. He cannot work home office like I can. I mean, like my type of job allows me to work one, two days per week out of home. Right. Yeah. He has to be in the plant.
SPEAKER_01Right. So yeah, you you can't carpool. No, no chance.
SPEAKER_00No chance, no chance.
SPEAKER_01But family, as you said, is very important to you. It plays a big role in your life. You have a large extended family as well, and you have uh a spot where you gather together every summer. Tell us more about that.
SPEAKER_00Great grandfather, uh, a hundred years ago, he bought uh a piece of land at the Lake Boloton, which is the Sea of Hungary.
SPEAKER_01The Sea of Hungary.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's the largest lake, I think, in maybe in Europe, Central Eastern Europe or Europe, but um it's a big, it's a big lake, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So great location.
SPEAKER_00Hundred kilometers by I don't know, 20 kilometers, so so quite quite big. And he purchased the land there and it had a property, uh, as I said, 100 years ago. Then it was taken away after the world war because he was high-level official in one of the ministries. And at that time, these these these people got penalty after the after the world war, let's say. So it was taken away, then they had to sell parts of that. And step by step, us, I mean, my generation, we are the the grandchildren, our generation is step by step repurchasing that uh that property. So now these days, I think more of 20 properties in the same street, basically.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00We're gathering, as you said, we're gathering every summer, end of July, beginning of August. We have coffee, let's say, occasion at different sites of these 20 sites, where you see 60 people, let's say, or even more 70. And then we can discuss, you know, what happened last year, what will happen next year, you know, who is going out, who's dating whom, etc., etc. So all the big things.
SPEAKER_01It's like a family reunion all summer long.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, some of the families these days they live outside of Hungary. I normally say they 50% of the family doesn't pay tax in Hungary. Uh they live in Denmark, and Brussels, and Belgium, and Germany, Austria. So every summer they come uh, let's say, to Hungary to uh to entertain. These are the holidays normally I have. And then basically listening to the children, who are the great-grandchildren, it's like the babble of voices. Because some children speak three languages Danish, English, Hungarian, and and they learn actually a lot from each other. So one of the things, if you asked, you know, what brought me in my career step by step forward, it's like a little bit like like football, the language is by the way, a little bit like in football, you in each situation you can score a goal if you're ahead of the others. And for me, really the language is the the important uh knowledge is uh, let's say the system change when I started my career, which brought me ahead of the others. So I was always in first line because I spoke English, German, and Russian as well. So this this is one of the reasons I was ahead of the others. And um I think if I can recommend something to the new generations in a country where you have only nine million inhabitants, like in Hungary, and with the language of Hungarian, which is only spoken in Hungary, yeah, you know, we have to learn languages. That that is a key thing to connect with others.
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah, no, it's very important and uh super helpful. You mentioned that you learned to speak Russian. Is that because you had to learn that under communism?
SPEAKER_00It was it was mandatory. As I said, you know, it's the the the system changes we call, or the um the fall of the iron curtain, you know, it's basically when I ended my studies, so I studied in the socialism or communism, and I basically started work in the early capitalism in Hungary. Wow. And I couldn't use a lot of things from my studies, you can imagine what we learned in the socialism. So there are a lot of strange things that happened, and one of the strange things was that we were it was mandatory to learn Russian. But good thing in the bad thing is that through Russian, you know, I gained some knowledge in the other Slavic languages. So later on during my career, I was uh Eastern European controller of a big uh multinational company, I was seconded to Poland, Ukraine, Russia, and I I could understand those uh languages a little more easily because of my Russian background.
SPEAKER_01Wow. So when Hungary was under the communism, how did that affect your life growing up?
SPEAKER_00Well, that was uh maybe the worst for me that we were you know cut off from the Western countries. We had relatives in in Western Europe, but we had no chance to visit them because we only had that red, it's it's quite irony, a red passport. And the red passport was only valid in the socialist or communist countries.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00And there was a privilege to have a blue passport was valid for Western Europe, but you you know, we had no chance to get that. Only members of the the Socialist Party uh could get that uh passport. So basically, we couldn't travel. I had one chance to travel in '86 to visit uh uh my relatives in Switzerland. I could only travel with my grandma because then they made sure that I'm not going to leave the country with my family. Okay. So that was the key to return, yeah? Key to return. But other things, other than traveling, of course, there were no elections. Another interesting thing is that we've been waiting to buy a car in the socialism. It was a big thing. So you ordered the car and you had to wait 15 years to get that car. What? 15, one five, one five, yes.
SPEAKER_01I feel like it'd be obsolete by then if there'd be a new car by then.
SPEAKER_00We got the masterpiece of the Eastern German car industry, a Trobon. For it, that was my first car. It was a usable. So I bought that. It was it's not really true because I bought that as a used car when I graduated. But uh, but for a new car, you really had to wait 15 years. Same for a landline, a phone landline. We've been waiting 15 years to get the landline, and we got it, and it was a twin line. Twin line, you know what it means? No, what is that? It means that for for a certain period of time you cannot speak because your twin, you're sharing a line with someone else. Oh, and when he speaks, you know, your line is busy, huh?
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's crossed.
SPEAKER_00Oh and you don't know, and you don't know who is your peer, you know, who is your twin. Yeah, you don't know, so you cannot knock on the door, stop really weird stories, but also food. I mean, like uh a lot of things were not available to us, which are simply natural for my kids, for example. Nutella or a banana or orange, you know. Uh sometimes for Christmas, our Christmas gift was a chocolate.
SPEAKER_01Is it just one chocolate?
SPEAKER_00That was a big thing. It was a really big thing, yeah. In the 70s, early 70s, let's say.
SPEAKER_01But I guess if you don't know any better, you were happy with that. We were really happy.
SPEAKER_00Very happy about that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and then once you got to experience a bit more freedom, how did that feel? Like it was almost like a new world for you.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, absolutely. Actually, you can imagine my first company or started working, this consulting company, only foreign people. Okay. Only foreign people. So the the low-level, let's say, assistants were Hungarians, but uh from the first, let's say, leader level, they were only foreigners, you know, expatriates who worked there. And we started to use our English knowledge, which we have not been using in the past. We started to learn really, you know, on the job, speaking to these people. I spent all my life with them, private life, going to pubs after work. It was a big family as well, if I can say like that. Very interesting period of my life. And then even in our private uh time, we we traveled with with those uh great friendships, even lasting until now. And uh we were spending our private uh time as well together in in China. We traveled in '94. I traveled to China. I went to Hong Kong when Hong Kong was still British, you know, the last last year in Iforce and Macau and places like that. And and I, you know, what was you asked, you know, what was the change. I really much appreciate that uh to those expatriate friends I had because they helped me in this. I mean, got we made friends, they could afford a lot of things I couldn't afford. And basically they were sharing my cost. So I only had to pay 50% when we traveled. They paid 50% of my cost.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's so kind.
SPEAKER_00And this is because I told the story that you guys, you know, until the end of the 90s, I couldn't travel.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00And they said, okay, Gaza, now you will travel with me.
SPEAKER_01That's so kind. Are you still friends with them? Yes, you still maintain friendship.
SPEAKER_00I told the US US, one guy from Los Angeles just visited me um a couple of months ago. They're already retired. I was supposed to be retired, by the way, because maybe in 65 I will retire. But yeah, they visited me and it was a great time to uh reunion. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's so nice. So when you're not working, um, do you still enjoy traveling? I know you like to windsurf as well. How did you get into that?
SPEAKER_00In 84, so still with it in the socialism. My dad, who was an inventor, an engineer as well, like my son, he got really crazy about windsurfing because some German tourists who visited Lake Belaton, they brought windsurfs with them to to Lake Baloton. And he was watching them, he made photos and and stuff, and then he copied all this all this stuff and started to DIY, you know, do-it-yourself stuff. And he he year by year he was improving uh the construction of these uh surfs. And uh I can tell you in a couple of years he made such a good quality that I was I became uh the the the the number one the let's say the champion of Hungary with this DIY stuff in between 84 and I think ninety several years. I mean once I even went to uh Kiel Weeks to Germany, uh an international contest, and I got fifth, I think. So very nice things, but then I had to stop it because of because of the working, yeah. It started working in '91. It's absolutely chanceless to continue that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So you don't win surf in your free time anymore if you got a chance.
SPEAKER_00Kept skiing. Uh skiing was complementary to surfing in a winter sports for for wind surfing. So I kept that and I go out with my family every winter. Actually, it's we we mix it also with the visit of our relatives in Austria because we have relatives in Austria. So we visit them and and we make a reunion out there.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's so cool. What is it that you love about skiing so much?
SPEAKER_00It's down here skiing, so it's alpine skiing, not uh cross-country skiing. Um I like speed techniques. We have um, I haven't told you, we have with my brothers, we have a family club. Oh family club is called after a name. So my name is Geza Kurt Vieshi. Kurt Vieshi in English it means pear, something connected to the pear.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_00The dog is called pear as well.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's so cute.
SPEAKER_00And this club is called Pear Club. Let's say if I translated that. And and the club itself is actually like a foundation or a sports club, private club. It is uh taking care of young kids in between the age of three and eighteen to teach them skiing and teach you teach them sailing. Oh, that's so interesting. Summer and winter. So so basically, end of July, beginning of August, when we have this reunion with the family, there's a private occasion when the family is is is sailing on Lake Balaton. So we teach the little kids how to sail, and my kids are volunteer on those camps actually. So it's like helping the little guys, cooking for them. Wow.
SPEAKER_01So who's running it? Like, do you run that?
SPEAKER_00Well, it's the the family club. Okay, so everybody volunteer, everybody's country. There's a fee to to participate on that. So it's also to external kids, so they live out of that basically.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00And they organize ski events in the winter time as well. So normally I go with uh with them as well. Uh the family.
SPEAKER_01That's so nice. I I find that so cool. Yeah. You're a man of wonder.
SPEAKER_00I'm just the fund fundraiser of this of that uh sports club because I cannot work actively in that. It's it's it's a full-time job, basically, what they do.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So you just help on the side because you are so busy with all your responsibilities, your current role at spans, finance, HR, IT, procurement. How do you manage to handle all those responsibilities?
SPEAKER_00It's funny to say like that. I always used to be a finance executive, so just focusing on the classical finance functions. But at the same time, I I keep myself, my personality is pretty versatile. So I like to do things parallel and like to engage myself in a lot of things. And actually, that's one of the factors which I pretty much like in the current engagement that I'm taking care on top of the classical functions, I'm taking care also on HR, taking care of the the IT as well as management and uh procurement, a little bit of sales administration. So it's pretty much matching to my let's say personality. I really do what I do what I like to do.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you have your hand in in a lot of different areas. So you are wearing many hats. You have a lot on the go, which is great.
SPEAKER_00It's exciting and also learning. So beforehand, I was not that active in HR, let's say, and and and procurement. And HR is a good example. It's a very challenging thing nowadays. Everywhere in Europe, I could tell, because of the diminishing of the population, it's it's a challenge in each country to find the right input and retention as well, to retain the employees and then be better than the it's it's the same thing, by the way. Uh what I mentioned with the languages. You have to be better than the other players. And you have to find the right techniques on the HR area, and and this is what we're working on together with the HR manager, to find the right tools, how to retain the employees and programs, uh, you know, caring of the employees, uh, mentoring, coaching, training, uh, change the mindset of the people, how, for example, Z and X generations need to work or cooperate with each other, how we can you know match the different uh mindsets, the different kinds of thinking of the people. So it's a very complex story, and I'm very thankful to our child manager that uh she brought that thing uh close to me and she allowed me to play this role. So I I I learned really a lot on that, and it's very interesting, it's pretty much motivating.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, you get to do something every day.
SPEAKER_00It's my longest employment in my career history, actually, Keir Shop. I stick to the company.
SPEAKER_01That's a testament. I find a lot of the guests on the podcast are long time, long-term employees, and I'm always just so curious what is it that keeps them here? What is it that that you love the most about your job?
SPEAKER_00Well, I I as I said, in it's changeable, it's versatile. So I I really enjoy that. And and I think I have a very good team here. I have worked together with 33 employees. Uh and uh what I'm really proud of is that the the voluntary fluctuation within my team is very, very rare. And I managed to construct a team who are really cohesive, they really work together, they're really motivated to do the job. And um, I didn't speak about myself because I have um, let's say, a management credo, uh, and that is empowering. I'm I'm the type of manager who is empowering because I think that secures creativity, that um helps the employees to make decisions on their level. So they learn how to make the decisions. And I think it's also key in the retention, which I mentioned just before. So I think they will feel the independence, you know, they will be happier. It's like when you change from communism to capitalism. When you feel the independence, you feel good. Same thing here. A little bit you need to provide some some independence to have this feeling. By the way, the counter The other side of the story is micromanagement. I hate micromanagement, for example. It doesn't work for me. And I I I don't think it brings you further. It doesn't have retention at all.
SPEAKER_01Right. That's a good comparison, though. That that's spot on there. And you guys, uh the Hungry team, you recently received a special award and you were the face of it on our LinkedIn page of the business super brands title, which is a recognition given to companies that stand for credibility, reliability, and strong brand development. Can you tell us what that means to you and the team being recognized like that?
SPEAKER_00Actually, it's a very funny thing. I asked uh the question because I I didn't know what was the basis of the decision. And they came back to me and they said there's a an independent committee who's watching all the companies operating in Hungary, and they are selecting always the top uh companies based on financial performance. They even look at the feedbacks on on Google and the employee of arts, you know, how do they award the company? What do they say about it? They they look at you know how we are present in different kinds of associations, whether we are doing uh the employer branding on the right track as well. So many, many factors. And at the end, uh there is a voting. And through this voting, uh they voted for for K-Shop, and I'm really proud of that.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's so special.
SPEAKER_00And you got to be the the face of it, you got to hold the award and yes, I tell you yes, I was taking taking over this uh this prize, but I can I can tell you also there is demonstrative uh things in the background. So, for example, if you compare our fluctuation, which is not zero, of course, but if you compare it to the industry standard, we're really doing a good job. Really doing still in this difficult time, you're still better than the industry average. And that demonstrates that we are somehow on the track.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, definitely. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_00Also, employee feedbacks. We have uh each year uh an employee uh uh feedback uh session when a lot of questions they can uh raise and and they can answer a lot of things and they can evaluate the company. And our our employees are really participating in this, so we have 70, 80 percent of participation rate. So all people go there and you know express their opinion. And the average result is is, I think, very good. So outstanding result uh compared to the industry average.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's awesome! Very uh noble and noteworthy. Something to definitely be proud of. And yeah, looking back now at your journey here over the years, from your early life to where you are now, what lessons stand out to you the most?
SPEAKER_00Interesting question. What lesson? A lessons learned.
SPEAKER_01Any lessons, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Lessons learned that you know, I'm a very communicative guy. One of my secret weapons is communication. This is how I dominate, by the way. So I learned really also to listen in the right moment when I have to listen and don't dominate the others. Right.
SPEAKER_01Listen and yeah.
SPEAKER_00So my colleagues say, I have actually I show you there are little stones in this basket. And it can happen on meeting that I put this on the table, and every minute when I talk, they take away one stone, and all the stones disappear. Finish. I cannot talk.
SPEAKER_01That's it, you're done. It's like a timer.
SPEAKER_00I cannot talk, it's like a timer, yeah. So so lessons learned is like you know, it's it's something, you know, maybe through this channel, I apologize for my colleagues that uh were really hurt when when I spoke too much and dominated the time and killed the meetings.
SPEAKER_01You just have a lot of info to share, a lot of stories.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, oh yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_01So I have one final question for you that I ask everybody on the show. What is your dream car and why?
SPEAKER_00I my dream car is family cars. I cannot have another choice. With four children, you have to have a big car. So my dream car is a is a V Class. That's a V class. It's it's a mini bus. It's a minivan.
SPEAKER_01I like that. That's the first answer we've got like that on the show. I like it.
SPEAKER_00Since I'm with Kirshoff and and I'm really thankful to the decision makers in this respect, I'm I'm operating the fifth of uh such a minivan.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00I I just got that because I said, well, I have a big family, so may I have a bigger car, maybe a van, and you don't have a dog. You didn't have a dog, so I need a lot of space. And they allowed me to do that, so I'm very much appreciated.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, you would think you would get like uh people always say they want a Porsche or a convertible, but yeah, no, mini bus. Like that's great. How do I fit my dog?
SPEAKER_00How do I fit my dog into that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you can't forget about the dog. Most important, what kind of dog is it?
SPEAKER_00It's a mix of spaniel and uh visual, which is a pointer, maybe. Yeah, point.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00So it's it's a crazy dog, huh? It's like me.
SPEAKER_01How man's best friend? How old?
SPEAKER_00He's 11. Actually, he's as old, almost got the dog when I joined Kirchhof.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00It's an old dog, but it's very, very, very active. Two active dog. If you ask me what other sports I'm doing, I'm doing dog walking, okay? Two times per day. Let's see, well, like six kilometers per day. Active walking. It's a very, very active dog.
SPEAKER_01Wow, I should get a dog, get my steps in. That's a good good way to get exercise.
SPEAKER_00It's not real walking. This is like running almost power walk. Power walk, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Love it.
SPEAKER_00So especially with the pointer. So you need to get the pointer if you want to be active.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's a big dog, it's like a 20 kilogram dog, you know.
SPEAKER_01My gosh. I gotta transition. I only have cats, so I gotta move move over to the dog side. So cute. Well, Lisa, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Before we wrap up, is there anything you wanted to share with the colleague?
SPEAKER_00I think I told everything, so I don't have anything.
SPEAKER_01You're out. The stones are out.
SPEAKER_00Burnout, completely burnout.
SPEAKER_01We're done. We're done. Well, thank you. Thank you so much. And to our listeners, if you enjoyed this episode, make sure to follow along on KNet and stay tuned for more conversations with colleagues from across Kirchhoff Automotive. Until next time, thanks for listening.